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for these massive spending cuts that would come at the end of the year if we go over the fiscal cliff. the white house saying they don't expect we will. they still hope it can be prevented, but they have to start planning. also, speaker of the house john boehner meeting with small business leaders on capitol hill where he reiterated some of his key points. again, just within the past hour. take a listen. >> business owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that vi
with those comments just 24 days to go until america confronts the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner coming out earlier today and saying no progress has been made in the negotiations. our chief washington correspondent john harwood is here with the latest. >> reporter: we ended the week with a fairly perfect, simple, clear, elegant expression of the partisan differences in this fight. speaker boehner came out and gave a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of
will get solved. >> so you come in here every day rightfully so very concerned about this fiscal cliff. and we just have 20 days left. no reason to believe this is going to happen today or tomorrow or the next day. wall street seems to have priced in a deal already. so what happens if it doesn't? >> huge selloff. and that is a big risk. if washington doesn't follow through with what the betting money thinks, that they'll be fighting over the top rate, that they will be lowering the tax rate -- do you remember the b k bailout and it didn't pass? all of a sudden it was down 700 points and suddenly washington passed the bank bailout. a lot of people are saying the worst case a their dwro is another thing like that. but the market thinks no one is stupid enough not to figure out how to overt the fiscal cliff. and they think that they're in the stupid enough to be able to push this over for a long term over the cliff. and that's what they're hoping here. >> it's a hedge. >> it is, but i think you're seeing signs of progress. and sometimes in the silence i think you're seeing the signs of p
the dreaded fiscal cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said. a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for, we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. i
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the fiscal cliff. dave: an exciting our coming up. we will tell you what drove the markets today with today's data download. of next week on wall street following better than expected november jobs report. the dow and s&p ending prior to eke out weekly gains, the nasdaq closed in the red ending down 1% a lot of that because of what happened to apple. financial and industrial for this week's top performing sectors while materials and technology lad a bit. the u.s. economy added 146,000 jobs in november as the unemployment rate dropped to four year low of 7.7%. today's report may not be as strong as it seemed, reporting employers added 49,000 fewer jobs in september and october than initially estimated. a preliminary reading showing consumer confidence plunging to its lowest level in four months. early december americans prepare for a potentially higher taxes at the beginning of next year. the index dropping 74.5 this month, far below november's reading of 82.7 and economists forecasts of 82.4. >> in the pits of the cme, michael tells us why dividend paying stocks are taught play regardless o
to the united states, bill richardson. so that interview coming up later. >>> as fiscal cliff talks here in washington are showing little movement towards a deal, there's now a new report that president obama may be willing to put raising the eligibility age for medicare on the table. is that true? we will discuss more this more in our strategy. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. welcome to chevy's year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd. humans -- sometimes life trips us up
going over the fiscal cliff and something technical comes out in the unemployment rate drops for some reason. ashley: let's hear from the man himself, mr. bernanke. >> good afternoon. it has been about three and a half years since the economic recovery began. the economy continues to expand at a moderate pace. unfortunately however unemployment remains high. about 5 million people, more than 40% of the unemployed have been without a job for six months or more. millions more who say they would like full-time work an have only found part-time employment or stop looking entirely. the conditions in the job market now show waste of human and economic potential. return to broad-based prosperity will require sustained improvement in the job market which in turn requires stronger economic growth. meanwhile apart from some temporary fluctuations largely reflected swings in energy prices, it is likely to run at or below the federal market committee's 2% objective in coming quarters over the longer term. against a macroeconomic backdrop includes high unemployment and subdued inflation, the fomc
like a campaign rally. he's out there campaigning now for his position on the fiscal cliff and also campaigning against the anti-union vote that's coming up tomorrow in michigan. >> he certainly owes organized labor. and obviously if you're a democratic president and there's a ballot like this, certainly hard to see why you would stay away, especially in a state like michigan. but i think what we are seeing is the president applying pressure to the republicans and looking for wedges. one of the wedges we're going to see is the republicans who feel more strongly about the income tax versus republicans who feel more strongly about the capital gains tax. the president may offer different kind of concession, to those two groups. >> the criticism he's getting is instead of going out there and ka paining in michigan and elsewhere, bring these republicans over to the white house, get in a room, work out this deal this week as opposed to next week and resolve it so the country doesn't go over the fiscal cliff. >> where's congress right now? they're home. where's congress most of the time? a
scott is an upand coming star . jimdemint's personal pick. >> steve: jay carny. the fiscal cliff thing. the average person really has no idea what that stands for. if you watch that. >> brian: you much the package. >> steve: no idea. something we learned about in school . i forgot about it. jay carny revealed yesterday. gretchen just said it is not a tax problem it is the way they waste our money. jay carny said deficit reduction is not the goal. are you kidding? here he is. >> deficit reduction is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that is balanced and allows for economic growth is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and revenues are part of it this. the president put forth and entitlement reforms and savings gleaned from our health care entitlement programs need to be a part of it. the president has been specific about that. >> brian: he's talking about generalitiys about unnamed cuts. jay carny goes on to admit if the president's propo
it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised
the fiscal cliff when nothing we're doing is coming close to deal with these issues. melissa: we talk about how hard it is to simplify the tax code. our guest before you guys said the same thing. it could be really simple. we could put out three rates for people with absolutely no deductions exceptions. if you're in this group you pay 35% or whatever. make up your number. >> right. melissa: if you're in this group pay 30, and this group pay 25. no exceptions, no deductions that would be one page tax code. whats wro with that, michael. >> because we live in a complex country with complex countr you don't want people, somebody with $50,000 of emergency medicalxpenses exactly the same as somebody who doesn't have those things? you want to tree somebody, the fact of the matter is you want to lance between simplicity and targeting. you want to balance between fairness and revenue. you need to make these - melissa: who dids decides what is fair? get out there and we pick nners and losers we say who's problem is worth taxpayer dollars and who's problem is not the government's problem. and that's h
. investors waiting to see what comes out of the fiscal cliff negotiations and in europe, a choppy start to the trading day. investors are waiting for the results of greece's bond buyback program occurs. joe has some of the big corporate news and this one is actually a global corporate story. >> hsbc. we're talking about paying $1.9 billion in the money lawnering lapses. a brirchb lender admitting to a breakdown of controls, in a statement announcing a deferred payment. yesterday standard chartered agreed to pay $27 million agreeing that it violates sanctions against iran and two other international companies. >> if you're an international bank and you prael without getting into this kind of trouble? >> no. >> can you actually operate without money laundering? >> i'm just saying, if you're going to be in business in all these types of markets, isn't this going to happen? >> aren't there sxwier countries that would be probably -- that it would stead if you don't want any business tale. >> was there a fascination in this country about whether you want to indict the whole institution or wha
, he was putting pressure on lawmakers to come to an agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. it was yet another white house effort to rally support around its approach to the fiscal cliff. joe biden sitting down with seven middle class americans worried about their taxes going up. >> these are hard working, serious americans who are playing by the rules, doing it all right, and struggling already in this economy. >> reporter: jobs numbers, proof the administration says that the president's economic policies are paying off. >> you see it in the retail industry, you see it in transportation. you see it in health care. and you see it in other sectors. you do see a continued movement that continues to show some positive growth. >> reporter: while cautioning the nation's economy is far from a full recovery, administration officials emphasize positive growth, suggesting it puts them in a stronger negotiating position with republicans. one senior administration official told cnn, quote, we shouldn't muck it up by raising taxes on the middle class or playing chicken with the debt ceiling. but o
can't see the light when it comes to the fiscal cliff. 28 days to go. what will it take to get a deal? >>> plus, the stern warning for syria from nato. the use of chemical weapons will bring an immediate reaction from the international community. we ask our panel if the united states will go to war. >>> and a new hollywood movie about the hunt for osama bin laden sparks oscar buzz and outrage. questions over just how much confidential information the film makers had access to. an "outfront" investigation. let's go "outfront." ♪ >>> good evening, everyone, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, let there be light. finally, some bulbs turned on in washington this evening. well, on the congressional christmas tree, that is. pretty beautiful. lights, love, camaraderie, song. but while our lawmakers took some time to celebrate together, they still weren't showing any spark when it came to negotiating a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which is the christmas present the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table
. >> 40 minutes past the hour. it's all quiet on capitol hill. when it comes to the looming fiscal cliff crisis that could be a good thing. in 21 days we go over that cliff and four days to get a deal done before they head to christmas break. drastic tax hikes and spending cuts loom. cnn political reporter shannon travis jones us live from washington. what are you hearing? >> well, we're hearing that the negotiations are continuing, zoraida. exactly what those negotiations contain, what's actually happening in them, we're unclear of. so we know that president obama and house speaker john boehner had that one-on-one meeting on sunday, it was their first since mid-november. discussions have continued but, again, very light on details. both sides yesterday put out statements from a public and then from the white house. very light on details. i'll read just one of them for you. quote, discussions with the white house are taking place but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to w
's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted of a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> shortly after house ni mort leader nancy pelosi put the plame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but wh
. >> the president has known about the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choic
whether washington can work out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. stocks rising, well, modestly is a big, strong word for what happened. technology stocks helping the dow up 15 points. the s&p up a fraction, the nasdaq rose nine. trading light. technology stocks strong in the market, and i'm speaking, obviously, comparatively. hewlett-packard setting the tone, leading the sector, not commenting on speculation that carl icahn has been amazing a position in the stock -- amassing a position in the stock. cisco systems -- mcdonald's, also a dow stock rising on news that sales rose 2.5% last month. that stock up just about 1% today. piper jaffray calling apple a $900 stock based on fundamentals. it may be, but it's got a ways to go after today, apple losing $3.43 on the day, $8 above its low of the session and trading slightly higher in after hours. crude oil prices down on the day for a fifth straight session closing at 85.56, the decline in crude also showing up at the pump. the average price of a gallon of gasoline dropping 11 cents, and we're looking at an average price of $3.34 a gallon.
. >> this is in the progress report because thereis no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is turning our economy and jobs, the white hhuse is wasted another week. gerri: what do y say? we wasted another week. we seem to be getting nowhere, and now folks are saying the president is trying to entice us of the fiscal cliff. >> look, i think they're actuly some pretty strong incentives for the president to take the country over the fiscal cliff. if you lo at what the president's stance to gain if the country goes over the fiscal cliff, here are very clear and identifiable things. on the one hand the president could idenfy himself as a tax cutter. he could say -- on january 1st the president in terms of the country and say, now in favor of cutting these taxes that have been raised because we did not solve this before the fiscal cliff. he can turn and say to my want to restore some of this funding that my secretary ofefense and joint chiefs of staff told me i need to restore and can position himself as sort of the protector of u.s. national security. so there are som clear incentives to th
report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming. the goose is getting fat. but in many homes across america, it ee's a very, very l time. >> the goose is getting fat. haven't heard that before. that was speaker john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi. they're reacting to yesterday's jobs numbers and the looming fiscal cliff crisis with neither side eager to budge or make concessions. the big question, can they come to an agreement before time runs out or will they take huge risks by cliff diving on december 31st. congressman allison schwartz is a ranking member on the house budget committee which will of course play a crucial role in these fiscal cliff negotiations. she has come in for us on a saturday afternoon. we do appreciate your time. >> good to be here. >> thanks for being here. there's a possibility of some major changes to entitlement spending by the end of these fiscal
, ross. i mean, you don't really know what is going to come out of the u.s. fiscal cliff, how damaging potentially that can be to u.s. confidence, u.s. activity. things seem to be holding up fairly well in china. but i think there is still going to be some concerns about the whole performance of the asian economy and whether that can actually pick up next year. and then, of course, in the eurozone itself, we seem to be mending the problems progressively and taking out the tail risks, which i think is good and that is the bottom line that investors should take going further forward, but at the same time, there are some elements that you can have. if you do a forecast, in a way you could come up with something like 1% quotes for next year, but at the same time, you have to be conscious that we've had such a battery of downside impact, downside negative news coming through really for all economists in the western world in the last few years. you have to be very cognizant of those. >> i think so. julian, we're going to leave because we have to get a break in and we've got to g to egypt as
and production. and what is the ceo of the world's largest retailer saying about the fiscal cliff? i bet he wants to rise above. find out your next question on "squawk box." twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >>> welcome back. u.s. equity futures are suggesting a positive open. the dow would open 45 points, the dow 6.5. gains of .4% to.5% across the board. now the weather channel's eric fisher with the national forecast. eric? >> hey. good morning, everyone. our stormy weather for today is mainly across florida, in the dry season. st. augustine to jacksonville, the first coast dealing with rain. we'v
's what we have three hours for. >> it was dumb. >> the name fiscal cliff where did that actually come from? >> i don't know. >> bernanke maybe. >> maybe. >> really? >> maybe bernanke. >> that thing really stuck. >> that's a good question. that's good trivia. i'll goog it. >> we've said it's not really. it doesn't happen really. it's more of a ski slope it's not a black diamond slope. it's more advanthan advanced. >> a double blue. >> but not without a lot of moguls. >> dan gilbert is the own of the cleveland cavaliers and the founder of quicken loans and you're the perfect person to have here because you have your finger on so many different things happening in detroit and around the country. let's start with the housing industry this morning because people have been trying to figure out if the resurgence there is for real. you see so many people who are coming in either for mortgages or refinancing. what do you see happening? >> well, you know, real estate is local as we all know. it's a market-by-market thing and when you put a national number to it you're taking an average that is
with a look at what's coming up on "starting point." >> we'll talk about the fiscal cliff, the president's demand wealthy americans pay more in taxes. is he willing to compromise with republicans? we'll talk to stephanie cutter the deputy campaign manager from the re-election campaign. also we'll talk to republican congressman from texas jim hensarling. a horrifying moment ends up on the cover of "the new york post." look at the picture of the man in the shot moments later who would be killed, crushed by that train. was "the post" wrong to publish this picture? teachers should they have to ta take tests before they practice teaching like doctors and lawyers? a recommendation in a new report from comes from the american federation of teachers. we'll talk about that with the president of that organization randy weingarten. >> passing the bar, like an attorney passes the bar, should teachers have to pass the bar. >> that's how they explain it. it is like a bar for teachers. >> see you soon. >> 27 days until we fall off the fiscal cliff and neither side seems any closer to coming to a deal.
to the fiscal cliff, this threatening of our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow walk or economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> so here's my sense, congressman mccarthy. why in the minds of republicans aren't they processing it this way? look, president, we'll give you what you want on rates. let them go up. but we have to get something in return. big cuts in the medicare program, and we're willing to make a deal is. that essentially the thinking of speaker boehner at this point? >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem and we don't want to be back here in another year or 10 years answering the same question. but right after the election, we sent a plan to the president where we gave revenues but looking for spending cuts. and he took three weeks to come back to us. he has gone on still on the campaign trail, still working through. but you have
in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move on to tax reform and some of the other issues. >> i think it's important not to confuse a quick fix with a real fix. we could increase the top 2% their tax rates to 100% and it would cover 91 days worth of spending. it doe
fiscal cliff cast a cloud or not? a new report from pricewaterhouse cooper. >>> recap of the headline, timothy geithner draws a line in the sand. tells cnbc the white house is prepared to go over the fiscal cliff if p republicans don't give in on higher taxes on the wealthy. no change seen at the ecb. draghi expected to hold off on rates and bond purchases. central bank may cut its forecasts for 2013. european stocks in the green in early trade. cheering the new aerospace ownership structure. >> yesterday dow with triple digit gains, nasdaq negative move. rate now about 24 1/2 points above fair value for the dow. s&p 500 four points above fair value. and we're, what, two and a quarter points above fair value for the s&p 500. ftse 100 up third of a percent. xetra dax up a 52 week high at the moment. 87 points higher. and the cac 40 up 0.6%. it's worth pointing out nearly 26% is the gains this year for the german market. we did tease you with the bonds. spanish 5.1%, slightly lower today. didn't quite raise the maximum with that auction that we spoke about yesterday. so this is where we
cliff and a new idea is born. it comes from an unexpected source. howard dean, does the former vermont's governor's plan add up? plus, a sailor charged with espionage and the war on drugs. we lost it. sir richard branson is "outfront." let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a bright idea. brought to us by the liberal former governor of vermont, howard dean. a man who brought us the scream heard around the world when reran for president. dean says let's face it, america, tacks need to go up for everyone. now, this might not be what you expect from someone like howard dean. it's certainly not the president's position or the position of most americans. another new poll out today shows that most people like the president's idea of only raising taxes on other people. specifically, the top 2%. the problem is according to the congressional research service, the math doesn't add up. that tax hike would only give $678 billion in additional revenue over ten years, now, remember, we're $16 trillion in the debt. now, if we go with howard dean's idea, tha
but not a roaring recovery. does it help one side more than the other in the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. >> they will both have talking points. the president will come out and say, look we're recovering and making our progress and therefore the economy is okay to have these tax hikes levied on it and republicans will say it is too weak to play guinea pig with the economy and you shouldn't be making this experimentation, the job numbers are not strong and politics aside, presidents with a second term their most lasting legacy is their stewardship of the economy and it is astonishing, given how weak the economy is, you can got out and impose new taxes, whatever will come, in he's wrong and it has an effect it will be hard for us to dig out of that in the end. >> chris: juan, 23 days, and counting, now, until we go over the cliff. do you see -- and you heard senators corker and schumer, any sign aw sign we are getting closer to a deal. and it does seem like republicans are caving on the top tax rates. >> you were listening carefully. that is exactly right. that is the sign. i mean, republi
to some sort of agreement on the fiscal cliff. we can't increase spending. we are trying to rein it in and i am not that worried. there are distributional effects. lot of the lower end retailers, dollars or, drug stores have been big beneficiaries on extended unemployment benefits and their business will likely slow. cheryl: let me ask you something. you brought up the issue of the amount of retail dobbs but those are low-wage jobs. i assume the market does not want to see that. nice to see jobs added but not the right type of jobs. >> that is right. 50% of the jobs that were part of today's report of the low-income variety jobs. hospitality, leisure, retail, temporary jobs. we don't want to see that on wall street. we want to see the high-wage jobs because those are the jobs that will sustain a growing economy. they will be able to buy big-ticket items such as cars, a house, durable-goods. that is what you need to really grow this economy and right now we haven't heard any strategy of washington. all we're hearing about are extra taxes. cheryl: i want you to listen to this and
this country go over the fiscal cliff. just to protect the top 2%. better to take the hit now, they argued, than in january with the world economy in turmoil and second recession coming. number two, john boehner, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are
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think about republicans negotiating for president obama on the fiscal cliff? like a lot of other things for alan west, it all comes down to socialism. here is what he told radio host mark levin. >> i think this whole thing about having negotiations with president obama is silly. president obama is marxist, socialist, rigid ideologue, and for whatever reason he believes he has some self-conceived mandate to go out and further destroy and ruin our economy. >> so if you have any lingering nostalgia for the clown show, that should kill it. west still thinks, by the way, his opponent patrick murphy somehow cheated in order to win the race. >> the most important thing everyone has to understand is that my voice is not going to be lost. we will -- we've gotten a lot of opportunities, a lot of offers, and we're going to make sure that we continue to have that platform. i'm not going away just because of a congressional race where he had to to cheat to beet me. >> west campaign's spent about $18 million in his bid for re-election, more than four times what his opponent spent and then beat him. >
the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> "the new york times" reports that senior republican leadership aides are contemplating a fall-back position on a fiscal deal. they could foresee taking up and passing legislation this month to extend the tax cuts for the middle class and then resume the bitter fight over spending and taxes as the nation approaches the next hard deadline. it's statutory borrowingç limi which could be reached in late january or february. speaking to a business roundtable, president obama responded to that idea this way. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did this it last year, i will not play that game. >> john boehner and house republican leadership met with small business owners today to talk about the fiscal cliff, raising tax rates on the richest americans for them is stil
would rather go over the fiscal cliff. >> i don't want to go over the fiscal cliff, but i am not for raising the tax rates. you are not getting to the heart of the problem. it is continuing to sweep of the rock. stuart: you may come to a point where that is the twisted your facing. if he don't say yes on raising tax rates we will go over the cliff. when the going to do if push comes to shove at the very end of this month. >> and what we're trying to do them all we have been trying to do for years is to not come to this point. had we been addressing the need for a pro-growth agenda so that we could be growing in our way out a part of this problem, had we been addressing appropriate spending cuts, the reforms that were necessary. to just say let's raise the rates, you raise enough. you only raise enough money to cover eight days of federal spending. stuart: what are you going to do? if that's the choice that you face you have to say yes or no. yes, i raise tax rates on the rich or no will not. >> you don't raise tax rates which. stuart: you would love no. and started to push li
will check in with our media mass segment and then katie left and right and the fiscal cliff negotiations and seemingly abandoning every conservative principal. now he's targeting those who dare to stan up to his actions. and why were congressmen huelskamp and amash abruptly rue moved from their posts? they are here tonight and they will explain coming up. [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow down. creamy mash potatoes, homestyle gravy and 320 calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no surprise millions have chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealt
men left standing between all of us and the fiscal cliff. in 25 days america goes over the edge. that's when severe tax hikes and cuts in spending begin. according to the "new york times," john boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can attempt to negotiate a deal one-on-one and no one is objecting. paul steinhauser is live from washington. paul, you got some new polling for us. what do americans want to see in a deal? >> it's interesting what they want to see and what they don't want to see. one of the biggest sticking points between democrats and republicans over averting the fiscal cliff is raising taxes on those making over $250,000 a year. look at this from quinnipiac university, the question was asked are you okay with that? 65% say they support such a move to avert the fiscal cliff. this is the third poll over the last two weeks to show the same thing, that most americans are okay with raising those taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. go to the next screen, there's a partisan divide here. this explains why most republicans are dead set aga
,000. if republicans do not agree, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top wealthy 2%. >> republicans clinging to what little leverage they have to maximize cuts zeroed in on the debt ceiling hoping for a repeat of the 2011 showdown where house republicans were able to extract $2 trillion in cuts. $1 trillion cut from domestic programs in ten years and $1.2 trillion in cuts through a sequester. wednesday, president obama seemed to set another red line, a business round table who warned against the repeat of last year's debacle. >> i want to send a clear message. we are not going to play the game next year. if congress suggests they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default, once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. because we have to break that habit before it starts. >> so, "the washington post" made a point friday saying you have two track
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